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Ditch Baby · 04-27-2006, 11:22 AM

my stock PS pump took a dump on me a few weeks ago, gave me an exucse to upgrade to MUCH better saginaw pump. Yeah most of you guys think sag pump=custom mods/brackets. well i was talkin to a fellow FTW member, told be about the sag pump that directly bolts up. Ordered the pump and installed it on Sunday. I didnt get pics of the "swap" becuse its the same steps that you have to do to replace the stock pump. Though i did steal a bunch of pics of 94bronco351's swap Get a Haynes/Chiltons book, helps a bunch.

autozone Part #206244 print this page out when you go to get the pump- makes what ur tryin to explain much easier
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...tnumber=206244

the powersteering pump bracket out

remove pump pully, i got this pully remover from autozone loan-a-tool

after the pully is off remove the 3 bolts that holds the pump on then it comes right off. bolt the new pump up and use the included bolt, washer and nut to install the pully

installed back in the truck blead and ready to go

note- the pics are a collection from when we did the swap on a 351 (who is now runnin the Redneck ram steering with this) and my 300.

***Gacknar*** · 04-27-2006, 11:53 AM

This is the same pump I plan on using.
http://www.rockauto.com/ref/Cardone/...pg&20-6244.gif

**sewiv** · 04-27-2006, 11:59 AM

What is it from originally?

I have access to a shelf full of Sags, mostly off chevy 350s. I'm just hoping that one of them is the right one.

***Gacknar*** · 04-27-2006, 12:10 PM

It's not from anything originaly.

It's a special built Saginaw hybrid built by A-1 Cardone designed to replace factory ford pumps.

It's basicly a regular Ford van Sag with a big horseshoe shaped adapter bracket on the front and connections that should mach up to the regular truck hoses.

**sewiv** · 04-27-2006, 12:14 PM

gotcha.

What do they take for core, then? Any Sag?

**imlikeojnow** · 04-27-2006, 12:14 PM

Will that work as a direct swap on a 94. i am about to have to get one so if it will im all over it.

***Gacknar*** · 04-27-2006, 01:07 PM

It will bolt up forsure. The most you would need is a diferant pressure hose.

bearfoot_25 · 04-27-2006, 01:25 PM

Awesome, i know this regedy pump i have now wont hold up after my D-60 Swap!!!

hmthesing · 04-27-2006, 01:31 PM

Would that work for the 302 as well?

**imlikeojnow** · 04-27-2006, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Would that work for the 302 as well?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gacknar

It will bolt up forsure. The most you would need is a diferant pressure hose.

he just answered that.

where would one get a different pressure hose?

***Redwagon*** · 04-27-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imlikeojnow

he just answered that.

where would one get a different pressure hose?

parts stores...I ended up using one off a ford van.

hmthesing · 04-27-2006, 01:48 PM

Okay, just wanted to make sure the brackets weren't different between the years.

plug ugly · 04-27-2006, 01:51 PM

what does the hi press fitting look like? Can you mod it for more flow like the regular sag box?

***Gacknar*** · 04-27-2006, 01:52 PM

Here is the thread where I learned about the pump.
http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30444
Post #4 by Dogonmut.

He says

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogonmut

You will need to swap to a high pressure line from a 78/79 Bronco. I don't have the part # for that item but it's only $14.99 at Auto Zone.

TTBlows · 04-27-2006, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gacknar

Here is the thread where I learned about the pump.
http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30444
Post #4 by Dogonmut.

NO you didn't. You thought

Quote:

Originally Posted by nacarfreak88

sag pump=custom mods/brackets

He sure schooled us.

***Gacknar*** · 04-27-2006, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTBlows

NO you didn't. You thought

Quote:

sag pump=custom mods/brackets

He sure schooled us.

**imlikeojnow** · 04-27-2006, 05:00 PM

So this one will bolt up right to the stock bracket without modding or building a new brackst the only thing is the high pressure line. does anyone have a part number on the high pressure line.

***Gacknar*** · 04-27-2006, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imlikeojnow

does anyone have a part number on the high pressure line.

It's for a 78-79 Bronco.

You have an internet connection.

Look it up at any parts store website.

Dangling_Dave · 04-27-2006, 06:44 PM

Geeze I don't know why you guys have so much trouble finding the right bracket. I see them all the time at my local yard. If I had any ambition I would gather them up and start whoreing them out.

dc

**imlikeojnow** · 04-27-2006, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangling_Dave

Geeze I don't know why you guys have so much trouble finding the right bracket. I see them all the time at my local yard. If I had any ambition I would gather them up and start whoreing them out.

dc

no one is having a problem apparently this one will bolt right up to the stock bracket. i was asking about the high pressure line

04-27-2006, 11:22 AM	#1
Ditch Baby formerly Nascarfreak88 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Palm Bay, Florida Posts: 1,760 iTrader: (16) Bronco Info: '89 SAS leaf D60 front, D70 rear, etc etc etc Ditch Babys Garage	100% bolt-up saginaw pump my stock PS pump took a dump on me a few weeks ago, gave me an exucse to upgrade to MUCH better saginaw pump. Yeah most of you guys think sag pump=custom mods/brackets. well i was talkin to a fellow FTW member, told be about the sag pump that directly bolts up. Ordered the pump and installed it on Sunday. I didnt get pics of the "swap" becuse its the same steps that you have to do to replace the stock pump. Though i did steal a bunch of pics of 94bronco351's swap Get a Haynes/Chiltons book, helps a bunch. autozone Part #206244 print this page out when you go to get the pump- makes what ur tryin to explain much easier http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...tnumber=206244 the powersteering pump bracket out remove pump pully, i got this pully remover from autozone loan-a-tool after the pully is off remove the 3 bolts that holds the pump on then it comes right off. bolt the new pump up and use the included bolt, washer and nut to install the pully installed back in the truck blead and ready to go note- the pics are a collection from when we did the swap on a 351 (who is now runnin the Redneck ram steering with this) and my 300.

04-27-2006, 11:59 AM	#3
sewiv i like monkeys Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 4,711 iTrader: (16) Bronco Info: 1994 XLT 5.0, MSD coil/cap/rotor, SpiroPro wires, Ford Racing tranny cooler, PermaCool filter, 3G sewivs Garage	What is it from originally? I have access to a shelf full of Sags, mostly off chevy 350s. I'm just hoping that one of them is the right one. __________________ -- Sandy

04-27-2006, 01:07 PM	#7
*Gacknar* The Anti Yam! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia, Douglasville Posts: 18,481 iTrader: (4) Bronco Info: 86 Bronco XLT 357w/AOD Gacknars Garage	It will bolt up forsure. The most you would need is a diferant pressure hose. Last edited by Gacknar; 04-27-2006 at 01:10 PM..

04-27-2006, 01:25 PM	#8
bearfoot_25 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midlothian Texas Posts: 2,843 iTrader: (9) Bronco Info: 2008 Traxxas T-MAXX 3.3 ,2002 Ford Expedition 4x4. Nitto Terra Graplers. Triton 5.4 bearfoot_25s Garage	Awesome, i know this regedy pump i have now wont hold up after my D-60 Swap!!! __________________ My Bronco and other pics Click here to see the Bronco in action!! If I wanted a Hummer I'd ask your sister! Barbie called, she wants her Jeep back

04-27-2006, 01:31 PM	#9
hmthesing Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Stacy, MN Posts: 1,324 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: '89 EB 302 C6 hmthesings Garage	Would that work for the 302 as well? __________________

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04-27-2006, 11:53 AM	#2
*Gacknar* The Anti Yam! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia, Douglasville Posts: 18,481 iTrader: (4) Bronco Info: 86 Bronco XLT 357w/AOD Gacknars Garage	This is the same pump I plan on using. http://www.rockauto.com/ref/Cardone/...pg&20-6244.gif __________________ 86 Bronco - 357W/AOD - 6" suspension lift, 3" body lift - 38" TSL Radials - 456:1 Gears Sequential Multiport Mass-Air Fuel Injection from a 93 Mustang GT My SuperMotors Site - My Engine The Greatest Thread on FSB

04-27-2006, 12:10 PM	#4
*Gacknar* The Anti Yam! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia, Douglasville Posts: 18,481 iTrader: (4) Bronco Info: 86 Bronco XLT 357w/AOD Gacknars Garage	It's not from anything originaly. It's a special built Saginaw hybrid built by A-1 Cardone designed to replace factory ford pumps. It's basicly a regular Ford van Sag with a big horseshoe shaped adapter bracket on the front and connections that should mach up to the regular truck hoses. Last edited by Gacknar; 04-27-2006 at 12:14 PM..

04-27-2006, 12:14 PM	#5
sewiv i like monkeys Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 4,711 iTrader: (16) Bronco Info: 1994 XLT 5.0, MSD coil/cap/rotor, SpiroPro wires, Ford Racing tranny cooler, PermaCool filter, 3G sewivs Garage	gotcha. What do they take for core, then? Any Sag?

04-27-2006, 01:48 PM	#12
hmthesing Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Stacy, MN Posts: 1,324 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: '89 EB 302 C6 hmthesings Garage	Okay, just wanted to make sure the brackets weren't different between the years.

04-27-2006, 01:51 PM	#13
plug ugly Master Bater Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: sacto Posts: 7,407 iTrader: (17) Bronco Info: 4 wheels, 4 sticks and 3 pedals plug uglys Garage	what does the hi press fitting look like? Can you mod it for more flow like the regular sag box? __________________ Stupid is as Stupid does mostly a 94 Bronco wt4wheeling

04-27-2006, 05:00 PM	#17
imlikeojnow green ones make me horny Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eglin AFB, Fl Posts: 11,060 iTrader: (22) Bronco Info: 1994 w/ built 302, E4OD, 33in tires, custom exhaust, upgraded ign. running like a raped ape Blog Entries: 1 imlikeojnows Garage	So this one will bolt up right to the stock bracket without modding or building a new brackst the only thing is the high pressure line. does anyone have a part number on the high pressure line.

04-27-2006, 06:44 PM	#19
Dangling_Dave Support our troops! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Arvada, co Posts: 149 iTrader: (1) Bronco Info: 1996 Bronco, D-60 5.13 gears Detroit Locked front, Sterling 10.25, 5.13 gears, Detroit locked rear Dangling_Daves Garage	Geeze I don't know why you guys have so much trouble finding the right bracket. I see them all the time at my local yard. If I had any ambition I would gather them up and start whoreing them out. dc __________________ Dangling_Dave Only WE can prevent Illegal Aliens! Round them up and send them home

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