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**Andy351** · 08-25-2003, 08:13 PM

I finally got off my lazy ass and upgraded my factory hubs. I figured I should do it while they are still good and can be thrown into my toolbox to use as spares. Just in case you were wondering, my bronco is an 89 351 C6 with factory manual hubs.

Go here for all the nitty gritty on Warn Premium Locking Hubs...

Time for this crap to go...

Start by removing the 6 hex head bolts that hold the cover in place...

This is what you will see, there is a snap ring around the axle shaft, and a locking ring in a groove about 1/2" back from the edge of the rim...

Use a pair of snap ring pliers to remove the axle shaft snap ring...

Somehow you will have to get the lock ring out. It is a girl dog to remove. I used some micro screwdrivers to pry it out, but you can use whatever works...

Now that the hub is just sitting there, put 2 of the hex head bolts back in and use them to pull the hub out...

Like this...

Now would be a good time to do this...

Its like fine art work...

Lightly grease the new hubs and put them in the same way you took the stockers out...

Put the lock ring and the snap ring back in. The hubs should come with new ones, use them...

Make sure that the covers are in the "free" position and bolt them on, engage the hubs and check to see if they lock (Note: these hubs take 9/10 of a turn, and not the pu$$y 1/4 turn).
If you can follow pictures, they should...
If you get lost, try reading the directions that come with it...

If you have any questions or would like higher resolution pictures, PM me

Thanks BMC for the wheel bearing write-up

**Crazed** · 08-25-2003, 09:11 PM

Nice writeup...

80bronco · 08-25-2003, 10:04 PM

yeah great write up but you left the part out where oyu modified the out ring by grinding he ends to make it easier to get out later

**Andy351** · 08-25-2003, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 80bronco
yeah great write up but you left the part out where oyu modified the out ring by grinding he ends to make it easier to get out later

umm, i didn't do that.....
they aren't that hard to get out, once you figure out how

**Andy351** · 10-26-2003, 01:03 AM

Reloaded pics so you can see what i was talking about

Bronco85 · 10-26-2003, 01:16 AM

I ground a little lip in my ring. This way I can stick to flat head screw driver in each side and it pops right out. Cept the one I made the lip on the wrong side. Not sure what I was thinking on that one:)

broncofreak2000 · 10-26-2003, 01:26 AM

Nice write up Andy! It should help out alot of the noobs.

Dirt · 10-26-2003, 11:19 AM

excellent write up! great pics too!

1982bronco · 10-26-2003, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broncofreak2000
Nice write up Andy! It should help out alot of the noobs.

you dont have to be a noob for that to help you out!!
sooner or later im gonna do that

origin · 10-26-2003, 01:07 PM

My '79 came with those warn Hubs, the 9/10 turn to engage

abaddriver · 10-26-2003, 10:19 PM

The trick to those PITA rings----- theres a small hole in the casing, which can allow a very small screwdriver(i used an akken wrench) you just jam sonething in that lil hole and itl push the ring out, then just slide a screwdriver an pry. saves 10 min of frustratoin and lots of pain(i got very angry and punched something and split 2 knuckles open). this way takes 30 seconds.
Tim

**godless** · 10-27-2003, 04:41 PM

Copy cat

I gots one in my SF page.

TRUCKY18 · 11-02-2003, 10:22 AM

I put some in my 95 the other day, it has 3 screws, but i couldnt get the small snap ring in, the big one thats a pain in the a** to get out went in fine, i just figured that, its all that holds in autos in and it would be fine. I fought with it for like 1/2 hour before i gave up

grogant · 11-09-2003, 07:09 PM

I just did this install on my 85. I went to sears picked up a pick
probe set for 10.00 took me 10 seconds to get the lock ring out.

axaviere · 11-17-2003, 04:09 AM

wow. think about all that extra time it takes to turn it 9/10s of the way -vs- the old 1/4 turn. thats going to cut into your wheeling time...

RobertF · 11-17-2003, 04:15 AM

What's the benefit to the 9/10's turn? What's wrong with just 1/4 turn? I've been thinking about slapping these on (Def the premiums because they are only $10 more) but I was wondering what the big deal was.

Lonestar_Bronco · 11-17-2003, 04:21 PM

The gold bling-bling finish helps you over rocks, and nets you another 2-4 hp. Note: those are mid-range figures. Premium hubs don't affect top end power.

**Andy351** · 11-17-2003, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobertF
What's the benefit to the 9/10's turn? What's wrong with just 1/4 turn? I've been thinking about slapping these on (Def the premiums because they are only $10 more) but I was wondering what the big deal was.

the premiums are made of a higher quality alloy. also, the 9/10th turn makes sure that your hubs engage and stay engaged

RobertF · 11-17-2003, 06:00 PM

Okie cool! Sounds like a good upgrade for the truck! So if I already have manuals I don't need the conversion kit right? Just unscrew and pull and the old ones and slap in the new ones?

Lonestar_Bronco · 11-18-2003, 09:08 PM

Yeap, think so. I know you can on a 78-9

08-25-2003, 08:13 PM	#1
Andy351 negative creep Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the place where all the junkies go Posts: 6,870 iTrader: (1) Bronco Info: bronco with seats and a steering wheel Andy351s Garage	Warn Premium Install I finally got off my lazy ass and upgraded my factory hubs. I figured I should do it while they are still good and can be thrown into my toolbox to use as spares. Just in case you were wondering, my bronco is an 89 351 C6 with factory manual hubs. Go here for all the nitty gritty on Warn Premium Locking Hubs... Time for this crap to go... Start by removing the 6 hex head bolts that hold the cover in place... This is what you will see, there is a snap ring around the axle shaft, and a locking ring in a groove about 1/2" back from the edge of the rim... Use a pair of snap ring pliers to remove the axle shaft snap ring... Somehow you will have to get the lock ring out. It is a girl dog to remove. I used some micro screwdrivers to pry it out, but you can use whatever works... Now that the hub is just sitting there, put 2 of the hex head bolts back in and use them to pull the hub out... Like this... Now would be a good time to do this... Its like fine art work... Lightly grease the new hubs and put them in the same way you took the stockers out... Put the lock ring and the snap ring back in. The hubs should come with new ones, use them... Make sure that the covers are in the "free" position and bolt them on, engage the hubs and check to see if they lock (Note: these hubs take 9/10 of a turn, and not the pu$$y 1/4 turn). If you can follow pictures, they should... If you get lost, try reading the directions that come with it... If you have any questions or would like higher resolution pictures, PM me Thanks BMC for the wheel bearing write-up __________________

08-25-2003, 09:11 PM	#2
Crazed F.O.T.Y. 2003 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Orygun Posts: 8,418 iTrader: (6) Bronco Info: '89 XLT SAS ~'78 Ranger, '88 F350 Crazeds Garage	Nice writeup... __________________ 357W / '64 Fairlane / '88 F350 /'78 Bronco

08-25-2003, 10:04 PM	#3
80bronco Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: dover de Posts: 186 iTrader: (0) 80broncos Garage	yeah great write up but you left the part out where oyu modified the out ring by grinding he ends to make it easier to get out later __________________ my bronco 1980 ford bronco 302,2 in body lift, 35*12.50 dunlop mud rovers, np435, 9in rear, dana 44 ft (soon to have 351w, 4 in dickcepek series II lift and 4.11 detroit rear and truetrac front)

10-26-2003, 01:16 AM	#6
Bronco85 Screw the Jeep Thing Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Eagle River, ALASKA Posts: 3,216 iTrader: (0) Bronco85s Garage	I ground a little lip in my ring. This way I can stick to flat head screw driver in each side and it pops right out. Cept the one I made the lip on the wrong side. Not sure what I was thinking on that one:) __________________ CLICK ON THE BANNER MY 85 BRONCO (PARTING OUT) '84 Bronco (SOLD) - I6 Motor, ALL STOCK '93 Bronco Eddie Baurer (SOLD) - 302, E40D, 1356, 6" Lift, 35x12.5 BFG AT's '94 Bronco XLT - 351W, E40D, 1356, ALL STOCK

10-26-2003, 01:26 AM	#7
broncofreak2000 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 246 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 78 4"lift 42"tsl's 4.88gears broncofreak2000s Garage	Nice write up Andy! It should help out alot of the noobs. __________________ 78 bronco 400cid, C6, NP205, 4''lift, 2'' body lift, 42''tsl swampers, KORE beadlocks, 4.88gears, 14 bolt rear, Detroit, HP 60 front, welded, Warn HS9500i winch, custom rock skids, and winch mount, saginaw steering pump swap, 1410 High Angle Driveshaft, Psycho Fab half doors, Psycho Fab cage. http://www.superford.org/members/profile.php?id=7281

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10-26-2003, 01:03 AM	#5
Andy351 negative creep Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the place where all the junkies go Posts: 6,870 iTrader: (1) Bronco Info: bronco with seats and a steering wheel Andy351s Garage	Reloaded pics so you can see what i was talking about

10-26-2003, 11:19 AM	#8
Dirt I think I just got dirty. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 988 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 95 XLT, dual exhaust, rest is stock for now Dirts Garage	excellent write up! great pics too! __________________ 30% Disabled USAF Veteran Driving a truck is a lifestyle, not a job. If you got it, a trucker brought it!

10-26-2003, 01:07 PM	#10
origin BroncSho Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lloydminster Sk, Canada Posts: 929 iTrader: (1) Bronco Info: 1979 EFI 460, 33x12.5 Yoko Geolander At's origins Garage	My '79 came with those warn Hubs, the 9/10 turn to engage __________________ 1979 Bronco 460 FI/C6/205, 33x12.5 Yokohama Geolandar AT 2000 F150 5.4l/4R100 Supercab, Shortbox, 7700 Package XLT, 4x4 1990 Taurus SHO 3.0/MTX/Fully Loaded/ Lowered/ Chipped (eventual Supercharger) 1995 Taurus SHO 3.0/MTX/Fully Loaded/ Stock Suspension/Stock Engine

10-26-2003, 10:19 PM	#11
abaddriver Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Fort Bragg, NC Posts: 524 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 95 F-150 5.0 ZF5 4x4 4" lift 33" MT abaddrivers Garage	The trick to those PITA rings----- theres a small hole in the casing, which can allow a very small screwdriver(i used an akken wrench) you just jam sonething in that lil hole and itl push the ring out, then just slide a screwdriver an pry. saves 10 min of frustratoin and lots of pain(i got very angry and punched something and split 2 knuckles open). this way takes 30 seconds. Tim

10-27-2003, 04:41 PM	#12
godless Jer aka Beerman Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 7,544 iTrader: (6) Bronco Info: Sold Bronco, but still live in the off topic threads godlesss Garage	Copy cat I gots one in my SF page. __________________ "For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." Carl Sagan PH.D.

11-02-2003, 10:22 AM	#13
TRUCKY18 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cincinnati, Ohia Posts: 808 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 95' All black 351w, E4OD, 3:55 TRUCKY18s Garage	I put some in my 95 the other day, it has 3 screws, but i couldnt get the small snap ring in, the big one thats a pain in the a** to get out went in fine, i just figured that, its all that holds in autos in and it would be fine. I fought with it for like 1/2 hour before i gave up __________________ The B'co All Black 95' 351w,E4OD, 2.5" lift, 32x11.50 BFG's, 3:55

11-09-2003, 07:09 PM	#14
grogant Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 7 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1985 351w Auto grogants Garage	I just did this install on my 85. I went to sears picked up a pick probe set for 10.00 took me 10 seconds to get the lock ring out.

11-17-2003, 04:09 AM	#15
axaviere scrounger extrordinaire Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Land of Oz Posts: 5,245 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 79 460 6" coming soon...39.5s, D60/D60 ARB/Detroit w/ 4.88s axavieres Garage	wow. think about all that extra time it takes to turn it 9/10s of the way -vs- the old 1/4 turn. thats going to cut into your wheeling time... __________________ take a look at TRUCK my 79 custom. 6" front, 4" rear, 460, 37s, 8 lug conversion. F&R discs. this season, i will have the D60/D60 installed, rear detroit and front ARB with 4.88s and 39.5 IROKs on hummer double bealocks, hydro assist and crossover steering

11-17-2003, 04:15 AM	#16
RobertF Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 267 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: '94 XLT 5.8EFI RobertFs Garage	What's the benefit to the 9/10's turn? What's wrong with just 1/4 turn? I've been thinking about slapping these on (Def the premiums because they are only $10 more) but I was wondering what the big deal was. __________________ -Robert F '94 XLT 5.8EFI, E4OD - For Sale

11-17-2003, 04:21 PM	#17
Lonestar_Bronco Welcome to the jungle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 778 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: '78 with a tailgate Lonestar_Broncos Garage	The gold bling-bling finish helps you over rocks, and nets you another 2-4 hp. Note: those are mid-range figures. Premium hubs don't affect top end power. __________________ Lonestar Bronco on Supermotors.org

11-17-2003, 06:00 PM	#19
RobertF Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 267 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: '94 XLT 5.8EFI RobertFs Garage	Okie cool! Sounds like a good upgrade for the truck! So if I already have manuals I don't need the conversion kit right? Just unscrew and pull and the old ones and slap in the new ones?

11-18-2003, 09:08 PM	#20
Lonestar_Bronco Welcome to the jungle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 778 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: '78 with a tailgate Lonestar_Broncos Garage	Yeap, think so. I know you can on a 78-9

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