Saginaw into an 86 302 EFI

[SuperDave]

I just did my Saginaw swap it was very easy and straight forward.

I went to the yard and found an 84 Econline van to get the pump and hose out of.

It took me only 3 wrenches (1/2", 9/16, & 5/8") and I had the pump,hose and all the brackets out in ten minutes.
Sorry no pics.

Got home and took mine out in about the same amount of time.

Here are all the parts. To the left is the stock engine mount bracket for the Power steering pump Top Right is the Saginaw Pump with the pump bracket and hose that came on it out of an 84 Econoline van. Bottom Roght is the Stock pump and its half of bracket (Gotta use the Van's high pressure line)



Saginaw pump and its own bracket. Bolt holes are 3-1/8" apart.


Stock Pump with it's bracket. bolt holes are 3-3/8" apart.


The motor portion of the bracket.


How the Stock Bracket needs to be modified.


All done. I just had to turn the oil pressure sending unit so that it was pointing up.

[Crazed]

Sweet....I am going to do my 89 soon....did you have to change the hose?

[BadassBronco]

Originally Posted by Crazed

Sweet....I am going to do my 89 soon....did you have to change the hose?

go search this forum, lots more info for the 89 style. yes, you need the van high pressure hose.
PM me if you need pump bracket, and hose, i can usually get one to your door for under $60

[SuperDave]

BadAss,
Thanks for the advice. THis was going to cost me $300 through AGR but with your advice this all cost me under $30 and 3 hours of my time!
Thanks! :cheers:

[81Bronk36]

Thats sweet. Thanks so much for doing a write up. My pump is dying too! cant wait to do that to mine!!

[81Bronk36]

Anyway to get those pics back Dave?? what happened to them??
I bought my pump for about 5 bucks!

[Fireguy50]

all the pics of the sag write up I've collected:
http://www.superford.org/registry/ve...s=8834#content

[81Bronk36]

That red x is brilliant!! BTW have you gotten any mail from me yet.. you might get it monday.

[Fireguy50]

Stupid me I saved the link as a img
yeah I got it Friday thx bud

[81Bronk36]

glad to hear it... I was mad at myself that it took that long to give ya the $$

[SuperDave]

Just reposted the pics that SuperFord lost

[81Bronk36]

Thanks so much!!

[SuperDave]

Anytime

[81Bronk36]

OK did the swap and figured instead of starting another thread, might as well add on cuz I have a few additions that need to be mentioned for doing the swap on an even older vehicle. It appears that either A) they changed the stock bracket in 1982 since Superdaves bracket has numbers on them saying they were designed in 1982(E2) , where as mine says it was designed in 78(D8)

B.)Or the fact that my truck was originally A/C made the changes not necessary. BUTTT.... I didnt have to modify my bracket, only the distance that it came out from the frame. Here is how I did that...


I cut the extention like peice off the aluminum bracket with the sawzall and it was just about perfect (non of my brackets are lined up within the milli-inch or anything) but they dont ever squeel!!


Now I can turn like there is no tommorrow, its easier access to the fluid dipstick, its more bullet proof in general(on my old pump the cap came off and layed on my headers some how)

Best part is I didnt even have to really modify anything that I was gonna keep on the truck at all.

The entire swap cost me about $9.50 if you include PS fluid and 1 hose clamp cuz my other one was crappy.

[SuperDave]

Looks good man You will be able to tell how much smoother it works compared to the garbage stock pump.

[85f150]

This might be a stupid question but is the same pump used on GM cars. It looks exactly like the ones on my 79 Firebird & 79 T/A. The bracket part wouldn't bother me but if this is the same pump all i need is the pump and the hose or maybe a hose from the parts store since the gm gearbox might be diff. thanks for the help.

[BadassBronco]

Originally posted by 85f150
This might be a stupid question but is the same pump used on GM cars. It looks exactly like the ones on my 79 Firebird & 79 T/A. The bracket part wouldn't bother me but if this is the same pump all i need is the pump and the hose or maybe a hose from the parts store since the gm gearbox might be diff. thanks for the help.

ya, most of the same.

just have ahydro shop make you a custom hose using half of your bronco hose, and half of the saginaw hose.

watch out though, as some of the newer saginaw style pumps are metric instead of standard on all the fittings/studs...

[85f150]

Ahh whats the need for a hydro shop when my dad works as a mechanic at the road commission and they have the press and all the stuff there for making their own hydraulic lines. :

[xmeinherzbrennt]

i found plenty of writeups on how to do the saginaw swap but whats the purpose and what is saginaw, i read all these writeups but its jsut tellin me how to do it not what the hell it is, sry guys im retarded, thancks

[85f150]

The purpose of the saginaw swap is Higher pressure and better quality pump. It makes turning alot easier for us with bigger tires and also has the fluid output to run hydraulic assit steering or a hydro winch. Saginaw is the name of the pump, because of where it was manufactured.